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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #1
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Default The reason I need Ursan.

So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).

But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins. I go with imbagon into Slaver's exile dungeon. Bam! Soothing Images and Insidious Parasite landing on me again and again. Soothing alone destroys most paragon builds.
So I think about my options:

1. I can do ursan.
2. I can do ursan with fries
3. I can do mashed potatoes with a side of ursan

But no worries, I'll just go to Domain of Anguish. After several hours of waiting for a group, I enter the City. Bam! Vocal minority, Vocal minority, Vocal minority. I end up contributing nothing to the team.

How can I, as a paragon, contribute to the team in these areas? Why, by going ursan, it's the only option. Ursan, with it's pure skills, is not shutdown by these things, it does well in pve and it puts extra armor on top of an already high armor profession. Better than running paragon which can be shutdown by disabling shouts with hexes, punishing attacking with hexes, disabling adrenaline wiht hexes, blocking and miss enchants, conditions and hexes.

The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #2
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That's what you get playing with pure healing monks which are the majority PvE monks.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #3
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[Divert Hexes] Never leaves Tahlks' Bar.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #4
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No, you're being closed minded towards the situation.

I've completed most of DoA with an Imbagon, and he had no problems.

Divert Hexes Monk, send melee in to take aggro, done.

And no, this game is not forcing you to Ursan, you should just find a decent guild, look at what the area has got and structure your party so it can finish.

Or just don't do it in Hard Mode and use them anyway.

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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28   #5
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I heard decent monks have hex removal for areas with hexes.

t/f?

Its only your and your groups ignorance that makes you go U/P. Just like rest of such people.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:29 AM // 09:29   #6
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- I'm having Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, SYgon and Ursan.
- SYgons are off!
- Well, could I have Ursan instead then of the SYgon then?
- You mean Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, ...
[cue vikings]
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32   #7
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You are the reason why Ursan is created. Its for you, enjoy.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15   #8
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I'm unable to remove my hexes, I'm bad at GW, therefore I Ursan.


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You are the reason why Ursan is created. Its for you, enjoy.
Agreed. It was created for people who are too, erm, "special" to deal with things like Conditions and Hexes.

Not only that, but also monks who go with ursan are terrible. No hex removal? Lawl!

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Old Jun 01, 2008, 10:22 AM // 10:22   #9
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and ...
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The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group.
we have a winner for the "lamest excuse ever" contest
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #10
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).
Plenty of other builds out there, especially if you don't bother with PVXWiki.

As for your problems in the elite areas, well, you can always go P/Mo or P/Me if your Monks & Mesmers aren't packing any hex removal. And, of course, when playing with humans, always ctrl-click to call out the important hexes.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52   #11
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Just because a pvx build fails doesn't mean you should/need to turn to ursan....
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 10:53 AM // 10:53   #12
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Ursan is made for 'tards who've never heard of hex removal, it seems.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:03 PM // 12:03   #13
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"But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins"
Tehe, I thought that was the only area SY was useful.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #14
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If you think that just because there are a few hexes in a zone, you need to run Ursan, then you are pretty dumb. There's a LOT of hex removal you can bring...just pick one and go with it, or hell, bring lots of it.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38   #15
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).

But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins. I go with imbagon into Slaver's exile dungeon. Bam! Soothing Images and Insidious Parasite landing on me again and again. Soothing alone destroys most paragon builds.
So I think about my options:

1. I can do ursan.
2. I can do ursan with fries
3. I can do mashed potatoes with a side of ursan

But no worries, I'll just go to Domain of Anguish. After several hours of waiting for a group, I enter the City. Bam! Vocal minority, Vocal minority, Vocal minority. I end up contributing nothing to the team.

How can I, as a paragon, contribute to the team in these areas? Why, by going ursan, it's the only option. Ursan, with it's pure skills, is not shutdown by these things, it does well in pve and it puts extra armor on top of an already high armor profession. Better than running paragon which can be shutdown by disabling shouts with hexes, punishing attacking with hexes, disabling adrenaline wiht hexes, blocking and miss enchants, conditions and hexes.

The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group.
Its not Ursan's fault, the imbagon is just underpowered. WTB buff anet.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #16
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I think this thread is just a troll tbh. I mean, no one can be that bad right?
As was said, if you're too bad to ensure there is some hex removal somewhere in your party, then you and Ursan make a lovely couple, and I wish you all the best.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52   #17
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I think this thread is just a troll tbh. I mean, no one can be that bad right?
You'd be surprised....
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59   #18
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[[expel hexes]
[[divert hexes]


notice a pattern yet?

Also, soothing dies in like 3 hits, hardly a counter if you're [[splinter weapon|splintering] around.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06   #19
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OP, you fail, mkay? If hexes are giving you trouble...bring a HEX REMOVAL.
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Old Jun 01, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09   #20
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OP, you fail, mkay? If hexes are giving you trouble...bring a HEX REMOVAL.
It's not his fault Ursan doesn't need hex removals. There are no counters to that skill.
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